9-11 was an Indirect Defensive Attack – Len Bracken
Robles: Hello,
this is John Robles. I'm speaking with Mr. Len Bracken. He is the
author of six books including The Shadow Government: 9-11 and State
Terror, he is also a specialist in international affairs and
international relations and an accredited journalist. This is part one.
Robles: Hello, sir.
Bracken: How do you do? Thank you for having me.
Robles: And
thanks for agreeing to speak with us. It's a pleasure. My first
question is regarding the motivations for your book The Shadow
Government: 9-11 and State Terror – can you give us a little bit of
background: why you wrote it, what led you to write it?
Bracken:
Well, when 9-11 happened I was in Riga, Latvia for an activist event to
sort of protest consumerism. It took place throughout the entire city.
On
the day of the event I knew better than to jump to any conclusions and I
was very reluctant of course to say one way or the other who had done
it. But after about six-months time and looking at some of the evidence
and of course this was the same year that Jame Bamford published Body of
Secrets that contained the information and reproductions of documents
about Operation Northwoods.
For
your listeners who may not know – Operation Northwoods was proposed in
the early 60s prior to the beginning of the Vietnam War and Gulf of
Tonkin just before that.
Robles: That was the one, I'm sorry, that was the one to blow up a done civilian aircraft and start a war with Cuba, right?
Bracken: Exactly, right.
Robles: Tell us about that plan. It was actually turned down for the extreme quality of it, but…
Bracken:
Yes, sure. It was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
Lyman L. Lemnitzer who proposed the plan to Secretary of Defense Robert
McNamara. And
so the idea was to have a covert attack upon America. So the idea that
they would attack America and this would provide justification for US
military intervention in Cuba.
I
guess that they had planned some bombings in Miami and Washington DC
and blowing up an American ship in Cuban waters. That was what the plan
had as sort of its stratagems. The kind of a tactics that would be used
to provoke an attack. I
have a theory that I have developed, it's not just my theory but I've
advanced it somewhat and we call this the "Indirect Attack". You know,
this is always an attack pretending be someone else.
So
the idea was that the attack would be staged and would make it look
like the Cubans had done it and that would justify the attack. We
can see throughout history that this has taken place. You had Cuba in
fact, you have the sinking of the USS Maine in 1898 to get the United
States into the Spanish American War, and then in 1915 you have the
sinking of Lusitania to bring the United States into WWI, in 1939 you
have the provocation by Hitler, he staged the raid on the Gleiwitz radio
station to begin war with Poland. And of course Pearl Harbor in 1941
and Operation Northwoods was in 1962, then in 1964 was the Gulf of
Tonkin.
So at the same time the assassinations, and of course were coming up, the anniversary of Kennedy assassination – these events were well-known and were accepted as having involvement of the States. These other things were also taking place and of course these two now are becoming increasingly more accepted.
Robles: You
just mentioned Pearl Harbor as being a false-flag attack. Can you give
us little background on why you are saying that was a false-flag?
Bracken:
You can look into some of the books that have come out- the one that I
drawn a great deal is called Others Unknown, it's by Stephen Jones. I
think that the evidence has come out that there was advanced knowledge
on the part of the US military and the US Administration, at the time
the Administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt.
And
the idea was that they would send out the newer ships so that the older
ships would be blown up and it would look like the Japanese had in fact
attacked us without our knowledge when in fact there was advanced
knowledge and the people on the ground in Hawaii were denied the
information that was being held in Washington.
There are some documents that were missing from the archives that point to this, it's the implication.
One
of the things about the book which is The Shadow Government: 9-11 and
State Terror in addition to some detailed synopsis of these events we
also have a chronology.
Robles: I
recently wrote an article regarding 9-11 etc. And I found a mention of
your book, I was researching actually something that I had read years
ago from the project for New American Century.
It
was very interesting that when I started researching this, the project
for New American Century website was up and within like 5 hours of my
beginning digging there, this site went down and disappeared and it has
not come back up.
Regarding
9/11 state terrorism, state-sponsored terrorism and in particular the
Project for New American Century – can you give us some background?
Bracken: Sure. I'm also the author of the first biography in any language on the French theoretician and filmmaker named Guy Debord. He
was part of what was called the Situationist International– the radical
Marxist group that went from 1956 into the early 70s. And he stayed
together with one of the members of the group whose name Gianfranco
Sanguinetti and the two of them developed a theory of terrorism – sort
of offensive-defensive theory of terrorism, saying there is offensive
terrorism,, there is defensive terrorism, and it can be either direct or
indirect.
And
I have been working with that theory. I'm trying to develop and trying
to advance it because, as I said, I wrote the biography on Debord and I
also translated a book by Sanguinetti. Sanguinetti's book is called On Terrorism and the State and this is where this theory was presented for the first time.
So
with my book what we set out to do initially was to prove what we
called the State Terror Thesis. And this is to recount many of the
instances in which it's well known or fairly well-known and there is
some reasonable evidence to support the idea that states use terror.
The
big thing that influenced me in writing the book was the fact that in
2001 Jim Bamford published Body of Secrets about the NSA and other
things which talked about the Operation Northwoods.A
more recent example was actually spoken of by Zbignew Brzhinsky in a
Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing in February 2007 in which he
referenced a leaked document that said that George W. Bush had
considered shooting down a UN plane in order to justify attacking Iraq.
So
there is a lot of instances of this, with regard to Sanguinetti and his
theory on Terrorism and the State. This involves the assassination in
May of 1978 of Aldo Moro, who was the Christian Democratic Party leader,
who was trying to reconcile some of the different political factions in
his country.
And
of course Sanguinetti's book was published in the next year 1979 and
then again in 1980 they had the Bologna railway bombing which killed a
lot of people. And a lot of the evidence has pointed back to, I hate to
say this, but it pointed back to NATO and this Operation Gladio, it's
called.
And
there are several books published in Europe that have gone to great
detail. One is by Philip Willan it's called Puppet Masters: The
Political Use of Terrorism in Italy, another one is called NATO's Secret
Armies by Daniel Ganser. Of course, there are books in French and
Italian on the subject.
In
fact the European Parliament has tried to go back to NATO and say:"What
is the chain of command on this? How could you have justified these
attacks, pretending to be the Red Brigades in Italy and yet having
infiltrated these groups?" And NATO refused to respond.
Robles: What was the purpose of Gladio?
Bracken:
The original idea of Gladio was these were going to be stay-behind
armies that after WWII the US and NATO would leave caches of weapons in
countries such as Greece and Italy and Turkey and set up networks that
could be used in the event of a Soviet invasion or Soviet takeover or
Communist Party takeover and then invitation of the Soviets, any
eventuality.
That was the purported idea behind these "stay-behind" armies but in the end they ended up being engaged in provocations and according to Philip Willan, a lot of it goes back to the CIA base in Paris, the Hyperion Language School and that a lot of the people who were the Red Brigades who were doing the liaison, the sort of "fake" Red Brigades, they were doing the liaison with the CIA at the Hyperion Language School in Paris at that time. In any case, that is sort of briefly.
That was the purported idea behind these "stay-behind" armies but in the end they ended up being engaged in provocations and according to Philip Willan, a lot of it goes back to the CIA base in Paris, the Hyperion Language School and that a lot of the people who were the Red Brigades who were doing the liaison, the sort of "fake" Red Brigades, they were doing the liaison with the CIA at the Hyperion Language School in Paris at that time. In any case, that is sort of briefly.
It
turns out that the man who was most suspected of having pulled the
trigger on Aldo Moro is free at this time. He did some prison time but
he is actually a free man right now.
Robles: I see. Back to your book The Shadow Government: 9-11 and State Terror, what were the motivations behind your book?
Bracken:
People knew about my work in developing a chronology for The Strategy
of Tension, this is called The Strategy of Tension in Italy, the idea
would be that they would create so much social tension that masses would
want to have the state protect them and it would justify any kind of
police actions, it would justify a crackdown on the left, for example.
I've
done a lot of work on that, I worked out the chronology of the
Situationist International in Italy and of The Strategy of Tension in
Italy – it's in my book called The Arch Conspirator, it's a collection
of essays, and in fact I associated it with an open letter to the
citizens of Poland in which I warn them that if they were to join NATO,
that they would potentially have some negative repercussions along these
lines, of course it turned out to be different, they were used more as
these kind of "rendition centers" if my understanding of that is
correct.
Robles: The "Black Sites"?
Bracken: Yeah, exactly.
So the idea is that you could have Direct Defensive Terrorism. So this goes back to the terror of the French Revolution.
So
that the terror was used by the revolutionary regime to defend itself.
And this was done directly, they said: "Ok, we are going to go out, we
are going to have a 'Scorched Earth Policy', we are going to just
terrorize everyone and they will fall in line with our revolutionary
dictate". That would be a Direct Defensive Attack.
And then you have a Direct Offensive Attack. So
these categories are a little but muddy -the example used by
Sanguinetti would be the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
But of course we know that there were probably infiltrators there and
that this is not so clean.
But
just this whole idea that you could have the IRA, the PLO these groups
would be involved in Direct Offensive Attacks against the established
power, a minor group against the state. So
then you come to the category of the Indirect Defensive attack and this
is the example that we could use from Italy where the Red Brigades are
infiltrated, they are militarized and a Defensive Attack is staged. But
it's done indirectly in order to justify the established power going on
the offensive or for other reason.
So basically it allows a Draconian crackdown or it allows the Patriot Act for example in the case of the United States. And
then there is a forth category which is the Indirect Offensive Attack
which has not been developed by Sanguinetti and I've done some
unpublished work in that area.
But
consider for example that maybe the British were caught in Iraq dressed
as Muslims and carrying bombs and that kind of thing. So this would be
an Indirect Offensive Attack, they are pretending to be someone else but
they are doing it in a foreign country in an Offensive Attack.
Robles: There
were reports out of Libya when all that was going on, there has been
reports out of Syria as well, of officers being caught with British
accents and Turkish accents and foreign languages being spoken.
Bracken:
It could very well be this forth category –this Indirect Offensive
Attack is where everything is gone since 9-11 which was an Indirect
Defensive Attack although it was never really purely an Indirect
Defensive attack because you probably had Israeli and Saudi involvement
as well.
So it wasn't just the United States, there were other regimes.
Robles: Recently
Prince Bandar, or "Bandar Bush", as he is commonly called, threatened
President Putin and the Russian Federation with terrorist attacks during
the Olympic Games if Russia didn't pull its support for Syria. He
also admitted that they control Chechen terrorist groups, they control
AL Qaeda in Syria. What can you tell us about that - the Saudi
connection to Syria, to 9-11, to the Bush family etc. if you could?
Bracken:
With regard to 9-11 I can say that there was the report of the US
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the US House Permanent
Select Committee on Intelligence – this is joint inquiry into
intelligence agency activities before and after the terrorist attacks in
September 11th, 2001.
This
was released in December 2002. And quite often when you get a report
like this, that is conducted right after the fact it's going to be much
more accurate than the 9-11 Commission Report, which we understand was
more novelistic than historical.
So
with regard to the Senate report they are missing I believe 24-28 pages
and our understanding is that Senator Robert Graham has indicated in
his novels and in other places, he sort of implied, that these missing
pages relate to Saudi involvement in 9-11. Of course there was a plane that ushered out, when all other flights were halted, the Saudis were escorted out of the country.We understand that there was also a plane maybe even before the Saudi plane that ushered out Israeli nationals.
Robles: And the Bin Laden family…
Bracken:
But the most damming evidence in my opinion goes to the Israelis,
because, I have made the trip to Weehawken New Jersey where they had
Urban Moving Systems and the only people arrested on the day of 9-11
were Israeli citizens, some of them tied to Mossad.
We
know that with regard to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that the
"Safe House" in New Jersey at that time was run by a Mossad Agent,
probably working with the United States. In
2001 Urban Moving Systems, they had the white vans, the vans that Dan
Rather said: "Hey the police have stopped a white van on the George
Washington Bridge" and it had thousands of pounds of explosives and of
course the people were arrested, there was a massive "Spy Dragnet" but
they were all allowed to go back to Israel.
And
our understanding is that the person who was running the operation in
Weehawken, at Urban Moving Systems is back in the United States and is
actually living here now.
What
the law enforcement officials that we spoke to, we went back to
Weehawken years after the attack, they said that they were livid because
they knew what was in there, there were bombs, there were detonators
and there was even supposedly Anthrax there! Is what they told us.
This
is John Robles. You are listening to an interview to Len Bracken. He is
the author of several novels including The Shadow Government: 9-11 and
State Terror. That was Part 1 of an interview in progress, you can find
the rest of this interview in our website at Voiseofrussia.com.
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